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Re: Breaking up base (was: current state of the binup project)
- To: Philip Jenvey <pjenvey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Breaking up base (was: current state of the binup project)
- From: The Anarcat <anarcat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:43:04 -0400
- Cc: Murray Stokely <murray@xxxxxxxxxxx>, GERARDO ENRIQUE PAREDES MANCIA <g.paredes@xxxxxxxxxx>, freebsd-binup@xxxxxxxxxxx
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On Fri Oct 25, 2002 at 11:32:30AM -0700, Philip Jenvey wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 01:46:18PM -0400, The Anarcat wrote:
> > On Sat Oct 19, 2002 at 10:54:17AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
> > [...]
> > > the same mechanism. We were not interested in changing the package
> > > format, because other groups (i.e. libh / openpackages) are more
> > > focussed on that. We were focussed on updates, delivery, and breaking
> > > up the base system into discrete components.
> > Really? I've been dreaming about breaking up base for a long time
> > now. Have binup started any work in this direction?
> > I have a "paper" I started writing that I've been thinking to send to
> > -arch for a while now, should it be sent here instead?
> > A.
> Antoine, we'd love to hear your ideas, even if the "paper" is still in
> a state that requires surrounding double quotes to describe it.
I have changed my mind, sorry. After further discussion with some
people, I have come to realize that it would be close to impossible to
break up base without a new package system, and therefore, I'm not
exposing a new scheme to see it demolished by FUD and armchair
grannies that don't know what all this involves.
No offense meant to anyone here in particular, of course. :)
Seriously, breaking up base has several obvious advantages, but, as
JKH pointed out in private mail, the current pkg_* tools aren't up to
the task. They would just die an horrible death trying (for example)
to install parts of bin into a small size disk, because they have to
extract the package to a temporary location before installing.
This is one in many things that forbid me from going forward with my
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